You be the judge....

[KillEmAll]

[flowX]

[RickJames]

I agree with Morpheus (and his sarcasm).

This thread is a joke and these clips are normal.

[Morpheus]

[wndg]

pretty sure valve has it right with over watch being a real thing that's used to get people caught and banned.

CS has infinitely more resources poured into it than UT and they still draw from the community to detect the people that bypass VAC.

[flowX]

Yepp. Thats an ACT case which is discused in privat. .. a witchhunt wont change any view.

Same like all Friends off fallacy Posting smtng at the other topic wont remove any facts.

If someone got smtng important ..Just send it to the act

[HUMPTY]

[Meth]

[Sauron]

Meth those are clips from Finalz? To me that is some blatant triggerbotting. I might actually take the time to inspect that demo now because I haven't seen anything so blatant since heltah was caught. Just need to see high quality clips before making a complete judgment.

[blackout\\]

We have trigger botting connoisseurs in here it seems.

[finalzje]

hahaha this is hilarious.

[wndg]

[Morpheus]

If you examine all the good players in ut99 i will assure you will find many people you consider that are cheating. And some you'd say 100%.

Why? No offense but none of you have any training or formation to be able to access the difference between an awesome player and a really good cheater. The real experts in the field know for a fact that such thing is almost impossible.

There are so many ways of aiming, more than you could think. I actually saw a totally new one with PACO. You should watch a PACO demo, when everyone picked PACO first in ipug and he showed me clips that made believe he was really good, i analyzed them and i seriously thought he was cheating. The guy aims like a total moron, no offense. Check it out. Those clips from finalz are total mambo jambo compared to him.

Anyway its like humpty said demos are only good to one point, there is when anti-cheat comes in. I remember a well known guy from the CS:GO community, pro as well, while doing an overwatch he stated that he was confident the guy was using a triggerbot but it was almost impossible to distinguish it from real aim, so he entered him as a non cheater.

Basically trying to say that even if you think a person is using a certain cheat he might very well not using it and just be the way he plays, i speak of personal experience.

I think this thread should be only available for admins/anti-cheat members and not for the public eye. I really think flowX knows his shit, but i also know for a fact that there are way more fields and scenarios he doesnt apply his methods to. And i actually like the grabbing machine, unlike he might think

Please shut down the thread, its getting a bit ridiculous.

PS: i now understand why you got insulted flowX, i wasn't referring to you, i was actually doing that joke for windigo (page 4 joke)

[kud]

[Morpheus]

[Viperzz^]

Windigo and Sauron are the new anti-cheat dream team. Totally unbiased of course .

[kud]

people on reddit can ruin lives by releasing personal information, but on this site damaging action can only be taken by admins. it's not a perfect comparison

[Morpheus]

[kud]

[d3R]

[Sonic|^]

[wndg]

[Cromaniac]

[d3R]

[Meth]

[Cromaniac]

Omg its happening again! I suggest someone who clearly has time on his hands, to convince himself that many people aim like that, but nooooo. He decides to be narrow minded and make yet another useless dumb spam post. GJ METH, GJ!!!!
(you see how im doing the same now? we can do this all night long! )

[Viperzz^]

It's ridiculous how people are being ''brainwashed'' into thinking gizmo/cro/me cheat. It started with people being suspicious of gizmo because all of the sudden he got way better. Me, cro and gizmo hang around a couple of times and thus some paranoid individuals immediately go around spreading shit that both me and cro cheat too. Because we are better than we were 2/3 years ago? Because we hang around with Gizmo? I'm sorry but those are the reasons I've heard so far.

I shot 175 in 1 pug against rain and he immediately goes insane. 'Fucking Belgium piece of shit' are things I should tolerate from an admin. Why? Because I shot more frags than him in 1 single map. The second thing he said was: 'It's no wonder that you started rising, you're friends with gizmo and cro after all'. That's coming from one of the most respected admins here and I felt devastated to be honest. Why would he say that? Because I killed nakedman and kud a combined 100 times? Would he say these things If i had nothing to do with Gizmo? Probably not. He would've said ''wow 175 frags..'' just like he sais when snap or finalz do that. Nothing against rain, just an example.

Not a single person(excluding riven because..it's riven) has ever accused me before I started hanging around with gizmo. Where where the accusations when GU ICTF4 were going on? I was already putting down the same numbers but no one said anything. 2 Days ago I had to witness how biz told cro to suicide in real life. Why? Did biz honestly think he was going to win a 1v1 point against cro? Or was he brainwashed by people in his team who constantly call us out? Probably the latter. I'm so tired of the same shit over and over again. Windigo wants my gharden demo from the allstar. Did you guys see that shot? Did you see what ramdrop said about it? "I do those too''. Exactly, but when ramdrop does it no one gives a fuck because he's known to do sick shit. I don't want go give my demo's to obviously BIASED people who will just look trough every ''weird'' shot they see and call it cheats. If an admin asks, I wont hesistate, and I'm sure the same goes for gizmo or cro. It even got so far that Scream requested larmor and nakedman's demo. But I guess that's just scream. Beat the guy and you cheat.

I'll be honest. There was a time I was trying to avoid gizmo. I did not want to be associated with him any longer but it's too late for that. I don't care anymore. Provide solid proof instead of these stupid clips you can find in anyone's demo. The shots gizmo make, I make too. But some people are so biased they will look trough everything and find whatever they want to see.

So please. Stop witchhunting us until you find RELIABLE proof that any of us cheat. Until then stop calling us out every fucking pug we play. Thank you.

[Meth]

[Viperzz^]

Keep trying meth. Post as many videos as you like, the result will be the same.

[Cromaniac]