[iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby CrashedMC » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:42 pm

hey i was like 400 something last season... u put me to high now.. no mames! :x
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby KNOCKOUTDAD » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:59 pm

800's or bust.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby faithless » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:08 am

correction: white 1501$!!!
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby whitechocakagod » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:47 am

I decided to see how things would play out if players were grouped into "tiers" instead of salary.

Phr suggested 16 platinum players (I think a mandatory rule would have to be added that each team could only have one), 32 gold, 64 silver, rest bronze. Then I ran a draft based on the tier system. Platinum players are worth 4, gold 3, silver 2, bronze 1. The first round each team has a max of 5 points to spend, and they gain 2.5 points each round after. I think it's a nice system, though the cutoff points for tiers are difficult. If players are tied on points, then the captain ranked lowest gets to pick (the captains are the only players that really do need to be ranked numerically). The teams ended up pretty even (though there were errors like repeat players and I picked just the highest salary player available instead of picking for positions).

Advantages to tier system:

-$100 players aren't picked out of necessity just for salary cap reasons, the best players are drafted. Mid tier players aren't penalized for being ranked at a certain dollar amount and will almost certainly get picked.

-It's a lot less work to do rankings and plan ahead for drafting a team...it's a lot harder for captains to get confused dealing with numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 as opposed to needing to spend x amount to get x player next round.

-There's a lot of leeway for player price under the salary system...different people could rate the same player several hundred dollars differently (and both lists could make sense). The tier system is more vague and gives the captains freedom to pick within tiers as they see fit.

-Captain salary didn't seem to matter as much when I ran the draft. Seemed more balanced, even for the middle captains.

These are the rankings I came up with, and the teams that I drafted based on that system:


PLATINUM

unrealshots
Serenity
rain
Junkyardboy
Morpheus
Hatchet
bleh-
Steel
Dewsick
Rum
snap
finalzje
Sonic
ramdrop
Monk
Sauron


GOLD

InfamousRaider
cyraX
Sauron
blackout\\
Cromaniac
bug
paleface
SunnY
snky
kylewins
natrix
riven
ravonix
fisk
risus`
Spriggan
MaDTeTa
HUMPTY
Hertz
bbz
senad
insanity
ApokaL1pS
Banko
Critical
THEINCREDIBLEPACO
maestroLOQ
edge
gzt
Viperzz^
n0b
KNOCKOUTDAD
AnNiHiL4ToR

SILVER

vega
Kowa
pokerFACE
Sens
rootsoft
-rapture-
Xenoscythe
Darkside
kud
Palak
crunk
toymac
mrgrins
Devil^You
DAM!
Feisar
flowX
iMpure
K-os^
kengzta
Meth
Fai|
rev
caspa
pulip
zein
tnz
sturm
Joschde
dev
caspa
ScReaM
brett-
ttocston
csnafk
booth
Bxttle
Sponge
Madz
miracle
SnpY
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seeya
DLX
Supreme
RailDemon
massie
Lineage
n0mer
d1sc
MaGma
mng
RickJames
Nitro
vdk
akito
cafe
ulo
NoAimNoMoves
CrashedMC
Hermione
faithless
E|ite
macz

BRONZE

Pun`
meep
JINNZILLA
crux
wndg
BusteR
blackmane
BeasT
Imperious
B|aZe//.
madness
Dem`
Draymith
krm`
Bryandigm-
HULKSMASH
XhackZ
clankiller
WeeDMaN
SuPa)-()V(aN*[KRU]
rusty2280
Leon
JD
diptie
triangle
Shadowfax
Ales
Arys
Se7eN
Beastz
beady
linoleumbonaparte
NakedMan
Bas
NiNjA][GAiDEN***
rAvje
anna
fuers***
Zac
Larmor^
Neddy
Provocation
Slasher
demon
Murder
patRon
z4TaN
HuggleMonster
iiSpyz
nightwing
Sovvie
nAbzzZ
KillEmAll
Moskva
D4RR3N
Moli
Dangerboy
MarKy
AppendixOfPaco



teams:

platinum captains:
Rain, draymith, xenoscythe, cromaniac, tnz, annihilator, dlx, macz, linoleum, iispyz
ramdrop, bryan, rapture, bug, zein, knockoutdad, seeya, elite, beady, hugglemonster
monk, hulksmash, rootsoft, sunny, pulip, nob, whitechoc, faithless, beastz, z4tan
sauron, blaze, sens, natrix, caspa, viperz, snpy, hermione, se7edn, patron

gold captains:
fisk, beast, darkside, rum, rev, gzt, raildemon, crashedmc, arys, murder
humpty, blackmane, kud, steel, fail, edge, madz, nanm, ales, demon
paco, imperious, palak, hatchet, meth, maestroloq, sponge, ulo, shadowfax, slasher

silver captains:
flowx, buster, dewsick, riven, kengzta, critical, bxttle, cafe, diptie, provocation
scream, wndg, morpheus, risus, k-os, banko, booth, akito, jd, neddy
mng, crux, finalz, snky, impure, apokalips, supreme, vdk, leon, larmor
rickjames, jinn, snap, ravonix, feisar, insanity, scott, nitro, rusty, zac
ulo, xhackz, sonic, kylewins, DAM, senad, brett, magma, weedman, fuers
miracle, meep, bleh, paleface, devil^you, bbz, dev, d1sc, clankiller, anna

bronze captains:
pun, jyb, pokerface, ir, grins, hertz, joschde, n0mer, krm, ravje
supah, serenity, kowa, cyrax, toymac, madteta, sturm, lineage, dem, ninjagaiden
bas, unrealshots, vega, blackout, crunk, spriggan, csnafk, massie, madness, nakedman
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby bbz » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:48 am

r u a fukin genius white?
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby whitechocakagod » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:49 am

yes ty
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby finalzje » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:45 am

Rank me lower, im way overrated in platinum.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby BeasT » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:34 am

This tier system looks good white, and makes sense. Good job and thx for the effort! I also think this way more players are going to actualy get some play time, and thats what its all about!!!

Personally i think i should be in silver, but i understand why i am rated this low, cuz after all i havent played a pug in 35 weeks lol.
Im getting a new pc plus monitor this week and hopefully be able to get my rating up in time for the salary's to be made final.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby ulo » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:59 am

I have been thinking along the same lines for a long time white, happy to see others are in the same ballpark. I hope we can have a good discussion about how drafts will be handled going forward to encourage people of all salaries to signup and to captain.

Good effort but for now it's to late to implement.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby maestroLOQ » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:28 am

Makes a lot of sense, good job.

Easy overview, easy picking.

Also the rankings looking quite accurate.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby fisk » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:43 am

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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby Devil^Youa » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:47 am

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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby heavy » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:20 am

i need glasses, cant see my name in a few lists :geek:
Global.iCTF IV Finalist || Global.iCTF IV $868 || Global.iCTF.V $1063 || OW.iCTF 1 $828
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby whitechocakagod » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:39 pm

I didn't recognize you, heavy. Or like 15ish other people. My bad :[
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby Darkside » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:43 pm

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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby HUMPTY » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:24 pm

why is ravonix so low..
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby kud » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:54 pm

zein sturm kengzta impure seem a bit underrated in these lists imo. also raise rickjames for almost capping after getting a holy shit on control</meta>
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby akito » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:45 pm

massie 1100-1200 easy , k-os^ also minimum 1100, joschde 1000+, sponge 1000 also, crux and shadow also need to be higher, blaze is also underrated. and ravonix 1300+ imo
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby Sauron » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:12 pm

white list still definitely lacking. The tiers I made in the initial post were to get a firm grasp of things - on my next update I will be applying some more changes plus implementing salaries in the way I described in the initial post.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby KNOCKOUTDAD » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:41 pm

$626
$793
$853
$847
$770
$834
$732
$648
$626
$748
$907
$543
$913
$847
$400
$620
$686
$832
$864
$629

AVERAGE - 735.9 dollars.

please use this as an example when doing my rankings.
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby ttocston » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:47 pm

me too!

$169
$548
$651

AVERAGE: $456
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Re: [iCTF.I] Salary Discussion

Postby ravonix » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:29 am

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