[saCTF I] Rankings Discussion

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Discuss.

Serenity
rain
sorn
finalzje
Rum
Viperzz^
Monk
blackout\\
Steel
riven
ramdrop
SunnY
bug
Cromaniac
InfamousRaider
snky
atr0city
MP/5
HUMPTY
reflex
spydee
FALLACY
ApokaL1pS
gzt
flowX
lavak3
Spriggan
KNOCKOUTDAD
booth
kud
Banko
edge
Sm0k3al0t
Xenoscythe
dev
mng
crux
csnafk
pulip
Sauron
Sponge
rev
RickJames
BuSTaH`
tigerclaw
n0b
JINNZILLA
exixt
B|aZe//.
ttocston
insanity
Feisar
ScReaM
XhackZ
kevinsan1ty
pwnage
ulo
Arys
Lineage
kyaxiz
d3R
miracle
chis
Hermione
Pun`
SilverWing
E|ite
whitechocakagod
Miek
Draymith
JD
holdr
FLYNNFrOMCaRPETS
Leon
Bryandigm-
HULKSMASH
Imperious
rusty2280
clankiller
Erikjenz
NakedMan
krm`
rAvje
missiLe^
b1o
cella
beck
tonyrayopa
HakunaMatata
z4TaN
snakeware
BUDDY
Predator
Sdaco|JrmY
nightwing
Moskva
Freakiz
NiNjA][GAiDEN
Jigsaw
Dangerboy
Mermaid
Sovvie
BlackMamba
nIcc
Maber
KillEmAll
HumaK

Unknown/Unranked (please help):
medor
skaarj_dulog
NTC

[InfamousRaider]

Pretty good start. I think Fallacy should be between Sunny & Ramdrop.

[chis]

Disclaimer: I don't know 90% of the ppl.

Dangerboy has to go way up based on my position and some others. Probably has a better aim than me. Then again, maybe I am too high up.

Humak sucks but I'm sure he's better than Sovvie at least - yea, sexism.

Only know medor from nw. Decent but not known for his aim? Bottom somewhere.

Out of curiosity, is that the Swedish Xenoscythe?

skaarj_dulog is leading s scoreboard.

[HUMPTY]

N0bs position has Gotta be an oversight ??? That's insane
Fallacy up
Spydee up
Humak can def go up he ain't a 100$ guy somewhere near hulksmash

[Viperzz^]

Looks good. I don't wanna be the guy who whines about his own salary but I should probably be a little lower. Around bug/sunny? Tell me if I'm wrong. Oh and nob is too low!

[Sauron]

Quick glance, nob and tigerclaw are way too low. About 40 people below me that are quite a bit better than I am. This ain't ictf.

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[KNOCKOUTDAD]

Switch me and n0b

[InfamousRaider]

I agree, n0b should be much higher. Didn't notice that the first time.

Feisar and tylerrofl should probably both be above sponge.
csn might be a little overrated (no offense buddy).

[rev]

Pretty good start. Nob is obviously way too low as well as Tyler. It seems like Tyler is under ranked every single season. Nob should be right above edge and Tyler should be right below edge.

Csn too high, should be around me and aponge. Riven up a few slots. Ir should be right next to humpty imo.

[rev]

Oh and angus is too low. Ranked below crux and sponge? Should be above kud

[ttocston]

i should probably be bumped down around 6-10 slots or at least lower than tyler.

[rev]

NTC is not that cool. He's about the same as nicc. Little better comms but frags worse.

[flowX]

Exixt bustah tigerclaw up like 5 Spots

Nob atleast up 20 Spots !

[KNOCKOUTDAD]

Serenity
rain
sorn
finalzje
Rum
Viperzz^
Monk
blackout\\
Steel
riven
ramdrop
SunnY
bug
Cromaniac
reflex
InfamousRaider
snky
atr0city
MP/5
HUMPTY
kud
spydee
ApokaL1pS
gzt
FALLACY
flowX
lavak3
Spriggan
n0b
booth
Banko
insanity
edge
Feisar
Sm0k3al0t
exixt
Xenoscythe
dev
mng
crux
JINNZILLA
pulip
pwnage
miracle
Sauron
RickJames
Sponge
rev
BuSTaH`
tigerclaw
KNOCKOUTDAD
csnafk
B|aZe//.
ttocston
ScReaM
XhackZ
kevinsan1ty
ulo
Arys
Lineage
kyaxiz
d3R
chis
Hermione
Pun`
SilverWing
E|ite
whitechocakagod
Miek
Draymith
JD
holdr
FLYNNFrOMCaRPETS
Leon
Bryandigm-
HULKSMASH
Imperious
rusty2280
clankiller
Erikjenz
NakedMan
krm`
NTC
rAvje
missiLe^
b1o
cella
beck
tonyrayopa
HakunaMatata
z4TaN
snakeware
BUDDY
Predator
Sdaco|JrmY
nightwing
Moskva
Freakiz
NiNjA][GAiDEN
Jigsaw
Dangerboy
Mermaid
Sovvie
BlackMamba
nIcc
Maber
KillEmAll
HumaK

Unknown/Unranked (please help):
medor - don't know.
skaarj_dulog - don't know

made a few changes here and there. it's been 14-15 years for some and i don't buy the "I haven't played/pugged in months" thing because most if not all people who play warm back up after a few games and you never actually forget how to play UT... it's like riding a bike. (i may have ranked myself a tad low but not really worried about where i get ranked thats up to someone else anyway.)

[kevinsan1ty]

Switch me and scott (I poop all over that chump erryday).

[HumaK]

I will prove to you that I'm not the worst!

No one can be worse than n1cc, atleast from what I've seen in ctf

[rev]

This is how I would do rankings. Rank similar players as close to each other as possible and gaps between similar ranked players. I also think it's easier to get feedback. Moving a player up or down a given amount of slots doesn't help. Saying which players should be in which tier is more helpful. When I made rankings, I wasn't concerned about who's over who within the tier, only trying to get the tiers right. It won't make much of a difference except in the tiers where there are over ~6 players.

Tier 1 In iCTF it was debatable whether other players like hatchet, sonic should have been included in tier 1 but in sniper these are two are in a tier of their own. There are feasibly some other players that could sign up and be considered for tier 1 but with current sign ups, I don't think anyone is playing close to these two.

rain 1500
Serenity 1449

Tier 2 Sunny was the best flag runner in the season with RAGE. With his familiarity with timing, I see the gap between him getting larger in sniper. Rum and Sunny have very similar effectiveness at flag running and blackout is the 3rd best defender signed up.

SunnY 1300
blackout\\ 1299
Rum 1298

Tier 3 All 4 of these guys are similar skilled primary defenders that can anchor a defense.

Viperzz^ 1200
sorn 1199
Ramdrop 1198
Finalz 1197


Tier 4 Next highest tier of flag runners after rum and sunny. Defense has been proven to be more valuable than offense each season so that's why they're under tier 3.

snky 1100
Monk 1099
Steel 1098

Tier 5 Similar skilled high fraggers.

riven 1049
bug 1048

Tier 6 2nd or 3rd best starter

Cromaniac 1000
atr0city 999
MP/5 998

Tier 7 3rd best starters

InfamousRaider 925
HUMPTY 924
FALLACY 923
spydee 922


Tier 8 3rd or 4th best starters

ApokaL1pS 875
gzt 874
n0b 873
edge 872
kud 871
Sauron 870
Spriggan 869
booth 868
mng 867
dev 866
Banko 865
Reflex 864

Tier 9 4th/5th best starter

Xenoscythe 825
Sm0k3al0t 824
lavak3 823

Tier 10 5th best starter

insanity 775
Sponge 774
crux 773
pulip 772
KNOCKOUTDAD 771

Tier 11 Borderline starters/dev stars

csnafk 650
flowX 649
ttocston 648
rev 647
RickJames 646
BuSTaH` 645
JINNZILLA 643
exixt 642
Feisar 641
ScReaM 640
tigerclaw 639
B|aZe//. 638
XhackZ 637
kyaxiz 636
Lineage 635

Tier 12 Top dev players

whitechocakagod 550
chis 549
FLYNNFrOMCaRPETS 548
kevinsan1ty 547
pwnage 546
ulo 545
d3R 544
miracle 543
Hermione 542
Miek 541
E|ite 540
SilverWing 539
Arys 538
missiLe^ 537

Tier 13

rAvje 250
Draymith 249
JD 248
holdr 247
Pun` 246
Leon 245
HULKSMASH 244
clankiller 243
krm` 242
rusty2280 241
Bryandigm- 240
Imperious 239
NakedMan 238

Tier 14

Erikjenz 150
Sovvie 149
Maber 148
nIcc 147
KillEmAll 146
HumaK 145
S 144
cella 143
beck 142
tonyrayopa 141
HakunaMatata 140
z4TaN 139
snakeware 138
BUDDY 137
Predator 136
Sdaco|JrmY 135
nightwing 134
Moskva 133
Freakiz 132
NiNjA][GAiDEN 131
Jigsaw 130
Dangerboy 129
Mermaid 128
BlackMamba 127
NTC 126

[tigerclaw]

[Monk]

SunnY is way too low in first list. He's the best iCTF runner around, and he's actually a sniper player who can time stuff.

Rev's rankings look better and well explained, although ramdrop is way too low in both lists (just look at some of the numbers he drops in pugs).

[medor]

[Serenity]

There will be some people rolling their eyes at this post, but Reflex is nowhere near as good in saCTF as he is in iCTF.

[KNOCKOUTDAD]

[finalzje]

I should be ranked waaaaay lower, miserable showing in factions on my part.

[Serenity]

[Sauron]

[Sauron]

On a side note, FLYNNFrOMCaRPETS is massively underrated.

[RickJames]

Reflex is good, could've been up a tier in factions, but he's definitely not better than fallacy, spydee, etc. I'd rank him by spriggan, they're very similar types of players.

Like everyone else said n0b, tigerclaw, and sunny are too low on rain's list.

Having me by sponge/sauron makes sense based on what I've seen.

Sm0k3al0t and crux seem too high to me.

Rest of rain's list seems solid to me, don't like rev's list as much (me and csn are minimum tier 10, flowX is minimum tier 8 for example).

[rev]

Ya you're right I think I was ridin the Reflex hype train, i moved him down in mine. I don't agree with the rest of your suggestions however. Smok3alot and crux have been playing at that level imo.

[Bryandigm-]

lmao, rev's list like the worst rankings I've ever seen in my entire life. No offense bro, half of your list its inaccurate.