You be the judge....

[miracle]

Alright I'm just reposting, just because my first post was a bunch of hail to read. This quote "sweep shots aren't caused by accel, sorry - accel makes it easier and in some cases needed to do more snap shots, if anything it's much easier to do sweep shots without accel since your mouse speed is more consistent." Tigerclaw you are right, but with the craziness of the accusations and posts being made towards gizmo. I can see how he gets confused when he tries to explain it.

Mp5, I'm sure the guys calling every player out would love to see your demo's, in avi format. And they would have a blast showing you suspicious shit that in your head overlook on a daily basis. Now, as I told gizmo, and others some people deserve to be accused and followed through with ultimately. Call me crazy, but I honestly don't see much of a reason viperz should be added to this list. He has been shooting the same ridicioulous shots since I was on a labtop and only recently have I seen people start calling him out. Funny part about that is when I first saw him play, I yelled on ts WHO THE FUCK IS VIPERZ. And what I heard, from players like jyb, ryan and others was he's been playing for a while, and hes pretty solid. And honestly I've haven't seen any dramatic jump in his performance at all, so if he's cheating he has been doing it for a while.

The reason this topic infuriates me is not that it is about gizmo, hell it could be about cro. This topic was made to discuss gizmo not make the whole entire community paranoid. Paco said before that he would assume there is 3-5 cheaters in this community. And I agree with that statement, hell honestly it could be more. But when I have to hear on ts, what do I think of nakedman, Pantera; it's just retarded. The irony of this is I've told numerous people including yourself, the best thing we can do is make videos and let the admins decide. If you don't want to pug that is on you, but what has happened is that everyone is being called out for literally some of the stupidest things i've ever seen since i've fucking played this game. The paranoia will kill this game a lot faster then 3-5 cheaters especially when 1 of them aint even in the freaking leagues as it is(if he is cheating).

He does pug pretty much all the time, but honestly when the admins make a final decision then what ever happens is the end result. If you don't want to pug well mp5 at least you can stay away from this crazy accusation spree. Especially considering the fact that last sdom, you were called out at least 3 different matches. The rest of this topic is useless, and you all need to fucking watch slamjam for fucks sake. I watched it and shot 53 acc today; fuck a 144 hz monitor.

[MP/5]

for someone who says he really doesn't like talking about this subject, u make sure u r in every conversation miracle
now if you cant separate 1/2 people who say someone like pantera or nakedman cheats (btw who r those people besides scream? u make it sound like its everyday) to most of the top players that play vs nick and say he cheats, well buddy you better off just stay away for good from all of this.
you say everybody are paranoid and every player is being called out, is it possible you are exaggerating and its more like 4/5 of the same players that r being constantly called out?
if any of us should stay away from this topic its you miracle as you have shown true lack of judgement in the past when it comes to cheaters and you know what i am referring 2 (if you want me to elaborate i will). and about me personally, you said i was called out at least 3 times last sdom season which is funny cause i recall of being asked for demos only twice. how many suspicious clips of me were posted? 0 how many times was i asked to demo every pug by the admins? 0
but i guess you know best about that subject 2 as you are an ex cheater, unlike me

[mng]

are Nick/Cro and Viperz in the illuminati aswell Sauron/Windigo?

[Bryandigm-]

[miracle]

but i guess you know best about that subject 2 as you are an ex cheater, unlike me

go ahead and look for stuff to support that entire statement. And go read up about it. And mp5 You know I hate that I have to keep replying to your absurd stupidity but i will. I've played numerous sdom pugs last season and had heard numerous people call you out. don't believe me why don't you ask some of the admins themselves. BETTER YET, stop being a pussy ass bitch and post a clip on here and watch what i say happen. And I already talked to scream about that. BUT NO he was not the only one who's said this shit. if your ass wasn't too pussy shit to play a damn pug, against people who you claim all day long are cheating WHEN YOU HAVE BEAT THEM IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE SDOM POSITION (GG). You would see what the whole fucking channel is turned into.

I don't give a fuck, you guys want to find buried treasure then do it. But this topic has gone way off of gizmo. This was a gizmo thread not a lets see how many people we can throw into a grinding pad, this is worst then the topic on global unreal. And the sad part was I wanted that to be my last post, but to read something as fucking retarded as something you have just posted, I couldn't even sit here feeling sorry for how stupid you are as far as this whole thing is. And the last thing, If you want to give up ur love for this game for a fucking idiot like gizmo, then goodbye mp5 i'd rather play this game without hearing you bitch about every single player when your destroying them in your midst anyway which is the funny part.

Out of all the people who posted on here, I respect windigo the most. He accused nick, he got proof to defend his accusations. And he is still working on it. If gizmo really fucking bugs you do something about it. Your one of those kids who get cut infront of in the lunch line, and cry wolf to the teacher every day. Grow a pair of balls and do something about it your damn self. I did my fucking effort. I told gizmo earlier how I felt. I wanted him gone so I could play with some of my friends again, But I'm not going to sit here and say he's cheating after the shit i've had to do to try to prove he is.. Because sad part is, he is not and have fun finding a buried treasure. Good day

[exixt]

dis thread

[tigerclaw]

[csnafk]

Most overdue lock thread I've ever seen

[miracle]

[Sauron]

Here's a simple question - is the ACT currently active? Are there ongoing investigations? If not, maybe a new ACT should be formed with people who are actually active.

[miracle]

[wndg]

Gif made from Gizmos own recording, at 144hz.
8 screens, 4 kills

Blackout was kind enough to donate some demos. He uses mouse accel, has a 144hz monitor, pings roughly the same as gizmo. And this was a 44acc duku game.

blackout kill on spyzy: ^^^^^^^^^^^^


blackout 180 double take. ^^^^^^^^
pretty good example of someone using mouse acceleration in a more familiar manner.
youtube:


Blackouts GIF. large sample most shots taken in succession^^^^^
84 kills, roughly 10-15 on the edge of the visible model or off of it, about 3 of them hit in a sweeping manner. Nothing really comparable to Gizmo. Even the shots near the edge of the visible model are totally different in regards to speed and where the crosshair comes from. The man sometimes sweeps but rarely starts near the model and ends at some far off place.


Gizmo GIF. not necessarily taken in succession^^^^^^
45 instances of sweep, the precision and speed while using an aiming style best described as flailing is unbelievable.


Just a couple more sweeps from nitro. There'd be more but I hadn't started documenting things as thoroughly as I have been doing lately.

here's another blackout gif and a youtube of the entire sequence


The kind of shot you'd expect to see a veteran of the game make, hitting near the center rather than on the edge of the model.


blackout ultrakill


another blackout ultra kill, still not seeing anything remotely close to the kind of shit gizmo pulls off regularly.

I asked and got blown off twice when inquiring about the hitbox tool or whatever the admins use to determine where hit boxes are in demos. So I'll just keep making gifs that give an approximate location that no human is going to routinely hit with mechanical precision anyways.

[Hermione]

Cheat or no cheat, nobody should be allowed to play with someone who is able to do this due to cheats or his internet, the shots aren't even where his crosshair is, its just goes on the enemy.

[MP/5]

[Viperzz^]

Can someone seriously lock this? Just send all your video's to ACT and we'll see.

[csnafk]

[Darkside]

[Bryandigm-]

[wndg]

Cro said 10 was too few instances. It's way more than 10. Morph said you could pull strange things out of anyones demo. Blackout is playing just as good if not better than when he was cheating, no 50 instances of 1 pixel sweeps.

It's nice that you want to give your friends the benefit of doubt, but you also need to acknowledge when someone does something unprecedented and makes a habit of it. You'd think clean players would appreciate the effort to prove someone is or is not cheating, instead of adopting this can't be assed attitude.

The numbers and the story don't add up.

[rev]

[clankiller]

i again say why do some peeps get kills when no where near the target? sorry blackout but that one on me you didn't even get in the hitbox it was high left over my head and still a kill? really starting to hate this fucking game now. not pointed towards blackout but i see this now alot in this thread and it is more a problem than a few cheaters...

CK..

[blackout\\]

[clankiller]

with all the hardware and 144hz monitors i cant seem to understand why people were against a 25% decrease in player size, a mod that was shot down pretty quick here. that would also show up cheaters alot quicker aswell if they are hitting the edges of the hitboxes on that aswell wouldnt it? i actually was doing ok on that mod it was the 40acc players moaning about it.. anyways the game seems to have reached its limit where its too easy for alot of you guys...

CK..

[Junkyardboy]

[clankiller]

[Serenity]

Hi

Out of all of the videos I've seen trying to 'prove' someone cheats, this is the weakest case I've seen in a while. Even weaker than the ones made for me. :p
I've been skeptical of the guy for a long time, but I don't think these videos show much. Anyone can be made to look like a cheater with slomo 0.5, all you need a bandwagon and people believe a lot easier.

*Edit*
This was made for me:

This isn't really any different from what you're showing here. It's all possible.

[Viperzz^]

[Zac]

[Sonic|^]

[HUMPTY]

lol